What does everyone do for boots? The Ghillies I made aren't that comfortable and I know I wouldn't be able to fight in them so I'm looking for something to wear while at faires and fighting....withouth paying several hundred $$$.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 2:10 AMGood luck. You can get a nice pair of leather boots for 100 bucks or so, but they won't hold up to fighting. I would get some nice looking boots for walking around, and get some steel toe boots for heavy combat.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 5:45 PMnot sure on the garb aspect, but if you can find some combat boots at a surplus store they work pretty well for fighting. Nic's right, don't wear your good stuff on the field,it gets tore up quick.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Fri, October 19, 2007 - 10:10 AMI buy my boots from www.scaboots.com. They ship fast, good decent boots
The pair I wear, I have been fighting in and wearing for over two years and just bought another pair. They were comfortable, and fit like a glove. I actually put a pair of Dr Scholl's Gel pads in but they didn't need them.
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Fri, October 19, 2007 - 11:18 AMI second Phillipe on the scaboots.com people. (sca stands for the owner's initials, by the way)
I've been wearing the pair I bought for general footwear and on the rapier field for just about a year now. No complaints from me regarding fit, comfort, or durability. I may add some straps/buckles to beef up the period look a bit, but that's just vanity on my part.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Fri, October 19, 2007 - 12:42 PMOn the other hand, I've had my SCAboots for just over a year, and the heel just started coming off of them.
Now, I am NOT saying this to deride SCAboots. I fully agree with what the previous poster said, they are amazingly comfortable! I even believe them to be reasonably well made for the money they cost. The bottom line is I use them for fighting (fencing) and have worn them a lot (I even wear them for practices), and I am as a person just brutal on footwear.
My pair can be repaired (I haven't gotten around to it yet), and will probably last for years to come (give or take the occassional heel replacement). So despite my small problem with SCAboots, I too would endorse them....
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:41 PMI guess I should count my blessings, as a Japanese persona and a light, i don't have to make such an investment
Back in the European days though, I considered scaboots.com but the price seemed so below their competitors I was suspicious. I am glad to hear some fairly positive reviews about these people. $99 bucks seems a bit low, and I was worried about the ol' "you get what you pay for " adage. A friend has some boots from Sons of Sandlar (could be just "son") that I have seen him fight in for at least 8 years and the sole is still nice and thick and well attached. I believe those were in the 2-300 range however.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 11:47 AMGenjiro - I wanted a pair like that :) But, I could afford 99.00 much, much easier than 2-300.00.
I just figure I'll get a really good pair when I can afford them - For now, at least 3 others in the shire are wearing the same boots, so I feel less conspicuous! -
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:31 AMAfter nearly losing my big toenail last night at heavy practice, (slid my foot under opponents knee armor while he was kneeling)
I've decided to buy some reinforced toe boots.
They won't look period, but walking in pain really, really sucks today.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Fri, October 19, 2007 - 1:50 PMI have fought in my Catskills boots but they are more rennfair then period but the stay on better than my viking turn shoes and they worked great for fighting but the toe is soft. I just started working on a viking "toggle close" shoe upper to cement onto a low rise steel toe boot. Period look and modern safty. I just don't think there is a boot that works well for both and gives good protection on the field. the SCAboot boots are to late period for me.
If I was fighting a battle that I knew I might die I would probably worry less about my feet but come Monday I need to be able to walk at work. :) -
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Sun, October 21, 2007 - 8:07 PMEast German tanker boots.... I've worn them for the last 15 years. They are cheap, can be worn in civilian clothes, and are both comfortable and protective. For those who tell you that they aren't period because they are left and right footed or what ever other non-sense they come up with tell them to... I believe the official proper term is FUCK OFF ;-)
Really they are comfortable and long lasting.... if they aren't the boot of choice back in the day then they are the boot that they wished they had. -
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:52 PMUhhhh, just a suggestion, but you may actually want to wait until someone makes a comment before telling them to "F&%@ OFF".
Saying it when no one has even gone anywhere near hinting anything about the "authenticity" thing is probably more rude than someone bringing up the "authenticity" thing. Seriously dude, you need to chill, save your pissyness for those that deserve it, spare those of us who "aren't going there" the indignity of such rediculous nonsense. -
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Fri, October 26, 2007 - 11:31 AMI'm pretty sure that someone would have said something about authenticity. I'm all for preemptive action. -
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Fri, October 26, 2007 - 2:12 PM[quote]I'm pretty sure that someone would have said something about authenticity. I'm all for preemptive action.[/quote]
Some things are just sure to happen, seeing it coming ain't nothing to get excited about...
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Sat, October 27, 2007 - 2:04 PMTheres never a bad time to tell someone to F@ck off. -
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Sat, October 27, 2007 - 8:23 PMWell since no "authenta-nazi" has piped up (nor was EVER likely to), Ill speak for them since they have already been told off...
East German Tanker boots aren't period correct.
And to take this a step further, I think the "anti-authenticity nazi's" had better be told to "go screw themselves" as a pre-emptive strike for uneccessarily being pissy on a topic that wasn't even brought up... Oh well, to late for a pre-emptive strike...
So much for discussion on armour and garb, it seems this "tribe" is nothing but a piss-pot for "anti-authenticity nazis" ripping on "authenticity nazis" that apparently aren't even here... -
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 11:00 AMNobody said anything about Nazis.
Vlad gave his opinion about tanker boots being good to fight in, and not caring whether they are period correct or not.
No one is pissing on anyone, except for Goblin, and he just likes to piss on things ;-)
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 11:12 AMoh yeah! Well F@ck off! -
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Thu, November 1, 2007 - 7:16 AMCome on Brother. You know very well that the world is your urinal, especially after a twelve pack of Foster's.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 11:12 AMNo one is pissing on anyone, except for Goblin, and he just likes to piss on things ;-)
He just likes to mark his territory.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, December 5, 2007 - 12:37 PM...and pissing on thing is period, so everybody wins.
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Wed, October 31, 2007 - 12:25 PMIf this tribe offends you so ,Michael. If it is such a horrendous piss-pot, and you are so terribly slighted by ideas that do not fall in line with your own, you are more than welcome to leave and never return.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 12:29 PMoh yeah, i wear double leather toe paratrooper boots, soon to be under leather shovel greaves.
They can be a little bit slippy on wet grass but my feet are safe and dry for the most part.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 3:44 PMQuite frankly, I over-reacted, and for that I do appologize.
The tribe does not offend, in fact it tends to be quiet here, and the when the ocassional conversation starts about garb or armour, it tends to be polite.... Until this thread... And even in this thread most of the participants have been incredibly civil and polite. I don't know Goblin, but his post was quite obviously meant to be jocular, and quite frankly didn't bother me.
I'm all for people having their own opinions whether they jive with mine or not. I do however tend to get pissy when someone uneccessarily gets pissy and aggressively rude about their opinion without provocation. Two wrongs don't make a right though, and for my responses, I again appoloigize...
Now having said all of that, I do find it entertaining the moderator singles out my uneccessary response, and left the original uneccessary post quite un-commented upon...
Oh well, I've said all I have to on this. So much for a polite forum, I'll do my best to follow the suit of the moderator and ignore the pisspots, and try to ensure that I don't get singled out again by being the one to respond to their pissyness and ask for civility again. -
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Wed, October 31, 2007 - 4:19 PMDon't you never call me a jocular again! What's jocular? -
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Wed, October 31, 2007 - 4:42 PMI said your statement was jocular, not you..... ;)
But in case you are serious about not knowing what "jocular" means, it's a fancy word for "tongue-in-cheek", or "sarcastic", or "speaking in a non-serious way" or..... well I'm sure you will get the idea now... -
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 5:04 PMIsn't jocular olde english for jock strap? as in after I puteth on mine jocular I then placeth within it's folds mine cod piece!
Or am I being Authentically Jocular? I've been watching these conversations from the wings and just couldn't help but add my two cents worth. Very entertaining I must say! -
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 5:07 PMOh and I fight in Harley Davidson boots, they look pretty authentic / period with buckles and what not, they're build to last and have good soles.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 6:01 AMGoblin,
I think he was talking about your man hood but at least he said you are jocular and not joculess. So, I don't believe it was a bad thing......
(but seriously, jocular - adjective given to, characterized by, intended for, or suited to joking or jesting; waggish; facetious: jocular remarks about opera stars. )
Just in case the public school systems failed Goblin or any others here. ;-P -
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Fri, November 2, 2007 - 8:52 AMSchool days,fool days! I couldn't tell ya half the mess I learnt in school! -
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Fri, November 2, 2007 - 10:12 AMWhen I get jocular itch, I just use Lotrimin.
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Wed, October 31, 2007 - 5:32 PMthanks Mike, i appreciate it.
And i did leave the "offender" alone. If he, or anyone frankly had had said ...for example, "CHIV...you can fuck off" with no provocation i would have had something to say about it. He had something to say about some conceptual person. In fact i find it kind of odd that you get offended that he would lob obscenities in the general direction of a conceptual person with ideas that you don't uphold anyway.
in shorthand, it's the internets, people are going to be loud pottymouths every now and again. I shrug it off and go about my business. Don't feed the Trolls...
i will also disclose, in an attempt to display that i am not without my own opinion on this "Authentics VS Stickjocks" issue, I am closer to the latter.
It's a hobby to me. It's fun. But, the fun curve drops steadily when i feel i am ostracized for not being a HARDCORE as the next guy.
If hardcore means drilling melee 2 or 3 or more times a week, or it means spending $X00.00 on whatever piece of garb that will be a waste whenever i am doing somthing mundane.
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 6:21 PMNo problem,
I didn't say that that I don't have authenticity minded leanings... I set high standards on myself and strive to make/buy/acquire my own stuff to be as accurate as I can within my means. Everyone else, can set whatever standards they want for themselves, and still have nothing but my respect for their efforts (or lack of efforts), as long as that respect is returned.... I'm all for authenticity, but I am even MORE in favour of NOT ripping on those who aren't aiming for authenticity or share my views.
So while I shouldn't have taken the comments personally, they still hit closer to home than my temper was comfortable with. Again, my appologies for my outburst. I'm glad no one seems to be taken it personally and this is all pretty much water under the bridge (or so it seems).
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Re: Boots for fighting and renfaire
Mon, November 5, 2007 - 8:32 AMANYWAY...(ducking Godwin's Law)
My husband had "Son of Sandlar" set he wore for years but never fit just right for his feet. If you have off-the-rack sizes, this seems to be a good fit for most performers/SCA folks
The biggest regret I heard about SCAboots is that they wear fast-don't own a pair, couldn't tell you.
I bought a set of renboots (www.renboots.com/) and I have been very happy in the high, soft leather for two years.
Otherwise I just buy my footwear here and suck it up.
www.revivalclothing.com/
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Mon, November 5, 2007 - 9:42 AMSCA Boots are dirt cheap and wear okay. I have three pair that I brought with me to Pensic. I treated them with Mink Oil and I wore them through all of the deluges. They're all still okay and I'll get a lot of wear out of them. At only $89 a pair, when one pair goes, I'll order more. They're not 100% "period" for me because they have heels. I own a really good pair of very "period" flat soled heavy leather "buskins" (the company sells them as riding boots) from Revival. They were almost $200 and they wear like iron, but I had to replace all of the buckles because they were crap, but the boots are good. I wouldn't use them for fighting though (too slippery on wet grass). For fighting (back when I ventured into that) I used biker boots (absolutely not period, but who the hell cares when people are trying to pound you to the ground with rattan?)
I'm an archer type and have been in the SCA the last two decades and my persona is 100 Years War so Revival boots are "spot on" but SCA boots are much more crappy weather friendly..... and they look okay and they are very comfortable to walk in.
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